Warning - debitcarcard4all.com - New Con Artist from Brazil!

**Safa** · 05-12-2009, 10:28 AM

I feel very sad for the owner of this domain (I even won't call it a company) this guy is just plain stupid and don't know anything about what he is doing!

What this con artist is claiming is that they have been in business for over 5 years (the domain is registered in Dec. 2008) and they have a Bank which accept merchants worldwide. Furthermore they claim to be professionals just because they have 1000 posts at another forum.

Sometimes it is unbelievable how this kiddies think they are Gurus just because their number of posts, this means nothing, I would rather trust a guy with 20 posts which have been informative and spam free than one of those "post whores" which just post to get attraction and to fool newbies into their doubtful business.

However, the guy is exposing himself on the forums, so I don’t need to say more here, but what is a pain in the ass for me and the entire Payment Service Provider Industry which is suffering on people like him, is that he is try to run a scam on people which maybe have been declined or for any other reason can’t get a merchant account with their local bank or an Acquiring Bank in the merchants region, those will pay the bill and furthermore such behavior will let Visa and MasterCard tighten the rules more, the purpose of all the restrictions Visa and MasterCard are applying towards their member banks and ISO’s is to eliminate such cons.

You can find a good blog post about the Visa and MC regulations here:
I am located in Europe, can I have a US Merchant Account to accept credit cards? | About Merchant Account

My best Advice is, don’t fall into such traps, run while you can and before you will lose all your hard earned money.

**SysOp** · 05-12-2009, 10:32 AM

Thank you for sharing, but what exactly is the SCAM here, I read you in regards to the Visa and MC regulations, and it is clear, that what he is claiming is against the Visa / MC regulations, but this is not making him a scam!

**jpay** · 05-12-2009, 10:38 AM

This entire website smells like hell, it is a cheap 5 buck design and I know which thread safa is referring to, this guy is a kiddy out for the quick buck.

But it is not .COM (they didn't managed this too) the website is : Debitcards 4All Card Payment Solutions
.NET.

**Safa** · 05-12-2009, 10:42 AM

This guy is just ****ed in his head.

Look you joined in February this year, try and get at least 100 posts then I may start arguing about the legitimacy of our products with you. As it is we stand by our product and have provided it to quite a few satisfied customers.

As mentioned he is a post whore, and maybe he is not a SCAM yet, but be sure the bank will terminate all accounts which not fall into the region of which they have been licensed for.

The SCAM comes while I'm sure the bank is not aware of what this kiddies are doing.

**Safa** · 05-12-2009, 10:45 AM

Oh I forgot, this is also a great statement which backs up this entire case:

Yes you are right, this domain was registered in December. We have been in the business for over 7 years. You would know a bit more if you had been around a bit longer.

The domain is registered in Dec. 2008, on the website they claim to have been in business for 5 years on the forums he say 7 years... what should people believe here.

Maybe he also say to potential customers, the bank is accepting your business case even if you are located in Uganda, they terminated your account while you made some money, I will keep it for you.

**SysOp** · 05-12-2009, 10:46 AM

Let's see what will happend in the future, maybe this will went out as a new drama :tinysmile_cry_t4:

**surender** · 05-12-2009, 11:06 AM

This is a good thread, thank you for sharing, I will stay away from such, also I will take a closer look at the company I just applied with.

Btw. is there anyone that has a link to the official list of compliant gateways around?

**Safa** · 05-12-2009, 04:37 PM

A quick update on this thread, just for those which need evidence.

This guy is posting on TG under the name darkhand and is scamming people there BIG TIME, he is a professional SCAMMER, also many of the pros are hitting him then he is continueing his scam, he is selling VCC with a merchant account what a dumb fu.. he never send the cards to anyone and is cashing in on all the people which are only reading forums but never write.

A BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Warning goes out here to get scammed by this scammer!

His entire website is fake exactly as the multible usernames he is using to promote his stuff.

Here are few posts made by the pros which already know he is a big SCAM:

Originally Posted by darkhand
Your card is the only one that has not been received, according to you. Personally I think it has been delivered.
....
Since all the other cards were delivered safely I don't think that the bank really needs to scam an 18 year old child out of his money.
Reply With Quote

darkhand let me understand you say that i received my card but i like to complain here about your service? Why should i do that? Every shipping company have a tracking number to see were the package is, i want you to give my tracking number to see were is my package. And i see that i'm not the only one that didn't received card or Arsalan got it?

"18 year old child"? from were did you get that, i provided you my birth of date or maybe you don't know who are your customers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by me-mail
my birth date: 14/10/1983 (dd/mm/yyyy) on our id is write date of birth the blue caracter from CNP.

Quote:
Originally Posted by darkhand-mail
Hello,

We are aware of your outstanding delivery issues. It is unfortunate that your card is the only one that was apparently lost in the post. We have asked the bank issuing the card to send you another one. They say you should wait a while longer before they declare that card lost.

[...]

These were the terms you agreed to be bound by when you filled our application form. We will do all in our power to see that you are satisfied , but we provide our service under certain terms and conditions, which we expect you to honor.

In the end i have to wait another 3 month, NO give my tracking number to see were is my package if that is not possible please report my card lost that should be done in 5 min, and refund my money that i payed for card.

**chipchip** · 05-12-2009, 05:33 PM

Just reg. because I found this thread, this scam has stolen my money, i paid him for 38 days ago and he didn't reply to anything any longer and don't want to pay my money back.

Also he is blaming others to be scam while he is one, I hate them!! Don't believe a word of what he will tell you.

**surender** · 05-17-2009, 10:04 AM

Maybe it wasn't a good idea to post about this SCAM on the forum since it will help them to gain new customers they can cheat - you know - google is everywhere... would have been nice to have this people behind this SCAM to expose them self here, that would make it easier for people to stay away.

Just to make it clear : devitcard4all.net is a SCAM, STAY AWAY a BIIIIG No GO - be Warned!

**wildy** · 05-20-2009, 07:46 PM

Slow down all of you :tinysmile_kiss_t3:

The website is already gone. Is unreachable right now.

Maybe the scam artist is going to leave to another site.

Hopefully that does not come back.

**blueweb** · 06-29-2009, 09:02 AM

Lol, maybe the site mentioned is closed, now they are operating under this domain:
Debitcards 4All Card Payment Solutions

Such idiots just put an S on the domain name and think they can move on with their SCAM.... BIT STAY AWAY debitcarcard4all.com = debitcards4all.net

**bizman** · 06-29-2009, 09:19 AM

LoL... it is what scammers always do, they think the people they are out to scam are plain stupid, changing just a letter in the domain name will let them tell you they are not associated with this domain.....! Even if it is the same webdesign they will tell you they are not in anyway associated.

This is the move by almost all scammers out there, they are full of ****, they even put presure to people which are screaming on the forums about they have been scammed by those companies....

A BIIG Warning goes from here also about debitcards4all.net it a BIIIG SCAM, stay away or loose your money